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I'm excited to see how many times the phrase "fake news" appears
ReplyDeleteCNN has everything under BREAKING NEWS
ReplyDeleteClassic CNN... I'm pretty liberal but after you listen to NPR and mainstream, nonpartisan news networks you start to realize how funny they are sometimes.
DeleteThis will be a hot topic: Black caucas remains seated during President Trump’s entrance...lots of potential for the media to recognize various forms of protest at this event
ReplyDeleteYup, I see quite a few seated
DeleteSome democrats are refraining from applause, some democrats are foregoing the address altogether
DeleteI am watching on NBC and they also mentioned that there is a group of people there dressed in black for the "Me Too" movement
DeleteInterestingly enough, Melania Trump is wearing white which is what was worn last speech in support for the end of sexual harassment. Although this may just be a coincidence, this comes at a very interesting time considering many of the surrounding events.
DeleteWhat topic do you think he will discuss first? Which one will he talk about last?
ReplyDeleteCould the colors of Trump, Pence, and Paul Ryan’s ties be significant?
ReplyDeletePossibly, but personally I think they are just ties because they have both Red and Blue ties. When certain colors are tied to politic parties they are wearing both blue and red so I don't think they mean anything.
Deletehttps://www.livescience.com/3281-red-blue-necktie-colors-matter.html
DeleteThis is a link to an article that I found about that, there is some traditional and phycological messages that go along with the colors of the ties, but they aren't really a political statement.
I think that the ties might represent something. Ties are often the most noticeable part of a suit because they add a splash of color or stand out compared to the rest of the suit. When the different political powers put on a tie, I am sure they know that people will be paying attention to it. Even if the point of wearing the blue and red ties were to show that they are for America or trying to be neutral, they are still significant.
DeleteNBC is strategically pointing their cameras to some of the former presidential candidates (ie. Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders) to juxtapose each party’s moods.
ReplyDelete"We have ended the war on beautiful, clean coal" "We have ended the war on American energy" "great, beautiful auto city" "motor city is revving it's engines again" . Trump is painting these hot topic stories in the media in a bright light. It will be interesting to see what the media has to say about the rhetoric the president is using here. I think they will see right through his use of adjectives and tear his main ideas apart. One thing I think the media will definitely discuss is Trump's way of including Puerto Rico in his "we will always love you" message. The media reported for months on how little aid was being sent the Puerto Rico and how bad the conditions there still are. Not very loving of us.
ReplyDeleteNBC said that he claps for himself, which is strange to listen to, but it makes sense because he always seems rather smug. Also, he used personal stories to push his points, which makes it harder to fight against because it's easy to relate to average people.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if the fact that he claps for himself during the debate helps or hurts his point. Obviously, many people have noticed it and may be annoyed by it, however others might like the fact that he claps for himself as it shows that he is confident. I think that using personal stories to prove his point may appeal to more people that may not approve of him clapping for himself.
DeleteCNN gushes over Joe Kennedy's speech and claims it to be passionate versus Trump's that was apparently dull and "lacked cadence".
ReplyDeleteCNN, surprisingly, hosted Rick Sanatorium on their show after Joe Kennedy's but, disturbingly, he was only hosted to be made fun of and used as bait.
CNN seems to be focusing more on Joe Kennedy's speech then on Trump's. Interesting
The morning after the address, the media is already swarming with different opinions and perspectives. It seems like the media has mostly been "fact checking" Trump's speech while being subtle in making their own statements. The main points of interest, however, is the lack of unity between the parties. There have been images, gifs, and video clips all over the internet that prove the country is just as polarized as it was a year ago. The media is picking up on the divide between what we heard in the address and what we saw.
ReplyDeleteCNN responding to the State of the Union address found 6 major takeaways. In their article, the author states that Trump talked about things he has done in the past for about 80% of the speech, and only talked about what he would do in the future for about 20% of the speech. CNN also criticizes Trump by stating that his speech and plans are more about being anti-Obama that about trying to change the country for the better.
ReplyDeleteI found it interesting that nearly 24 hours after, media buzz has significantly died down as far as I can tell. Sometimes, Trump shenanigans can take a day or even 2 to die down; sometimes that much of a stir can be caused by a single one of his tweetstorm. So for this important of an event, why would it fade so quickly already?
ReplyDeleteI think this is because it was fairly predictable and by the books. While he said some unusual things and was plagued by classic Trumpish speech patterns, he didn't really go off the playbook like he tends to do or say anything extremely controversial. As far as Trump goes he was fairly tame, which in turn doesn't give the media much to play with. Although headlines were on it this morning, throughout the day they declined and there isn't a whole lot of news about it tonight. Although he is still prominent in mainstream news right now, the articles are mostly about other things (first headline I saw about he is committing his own Saturday Night Massacre).
It's definitely important to create new jobs and raise salaries, however there are more pressing problems. For example, the fact that we owe trillions of dollars to China because we get all of our manufactured products from them.
ReplyDeleteCNN opened up their article by showing the poll numbers of the approval ratings for Trump's speech and showed that it was pretty much the same as previous presidents. They then went on to point out how the members of the Congressional Black Caucus did't clap when Trump bragged about the low African-American unemployment rate and how Melania Trump dressed in white, similar to when the women of Congress protested Trump by dressing in white. The only positive comment about the speech was when they showed the speech's approval ratings. By following this up with all the negative aspects of the speech, CNN portrays Trump's speech as one of the worst ones, even though it was similar to previous president speeches.
ReplyDeleteThe New York Times on our very own Englewood Colorado:
ReplyDelete"Lisa Carnahan didn’t vote for Donald Trump, but there she was...clapping mightily with the rest of the crowd".
I think they would point her out because there seems to be this common perception that all Trump supporters are those that voted for him and who have been supporting him from the very beginning. Yet, here is someone who breaks that perception, and who believes that Trump is doing "as he had promised".
Through Lisa Carnahan's perspective, readers are able to see a version of Trump that they probably aren't as familiar with. Instead of the maestro of "covfefe", "Rocket Man", and "easy D", they see a hardworking businessman, fighting for the everyday voter bit by bit.
Is this perspective dangerous or misinformed? Or is Lisa Carnahan, in her own way, right about the man currently in the West Wing?
For a culture so swiftly and easily divided along party lines, and for a president so unpredictable and unorthodox, the answers to these questions may be hard to find. But, as the New York Times points out, we have to be open to the idea. Only through learning about these other perspectives, even the surprising ones, can we come to understand nurture our own views, political or otherwise.